tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post7770260213447223449..comments2023-10-21T08:22:23.232-07:00Comments on Four Strong Women: Erotia Does Not Equal PornEmmy Ellishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06348320835897735088noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-73321009486289531712012-10-04T15:42:04.120-07:002012-10-04T15:42:04.120-07:00I've no doubt that no matter how well-argued b...I've no doubt that no matter how well-argued by either side, this debate will rage on. We are all entitled to our opinions, but I agree with the person here who wonders why the reviewer downloaded the erotic book with a title that tells you right off it is mostly focused on sex! Booksellers do not currently have separate categories like "Porn," or "Pure Smut," or "Romantic and Nasty," or "Romance With Sex, But Without Crude Terminology." So in the meantime, Erotica and/or Romance are the only available categories. My book has been called by one reviewer "Nothing but black porn!" Yes, I was offended by her reference to the color of the characters. LOL! Keep writing that sexy stuff. I downloaded this book BTW, precisely because of the title and the cool cover.Katlynne/Ms. Downlowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01430652795188204035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-40747723784402409622012-10-04T15:22:08.901-07:002012-10-04T15:22:08.901-07:00Here here, Livia. So happy you wrote this.Here here, Livia. So happy you wrote this.jessacallavernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-8937887311786930502012-10-03T13:18:18.434-07:002012-10-03T13:18:18.434-07:00These "Is it or isn't it" discussion... These "Is it or isn't it" discussions always intrigue me as an author. I've been in a few discussions about this on some writer's sites and to say a few of them got heated is an understatement.All because someone suggested it might be dressed up porn. (It wasn't me, by the way). And, yes, I have read erotica which I know is going to be your next question.<br /> But I will play Devil's Advocate.I grew up in the 60s where certain books you read were kept under the mattress and not on the bookshelf. The romance novel has been around for ages and I'm sure a good many of you have read a Harlequin Romance or two.<br /> Hypothetically,somewhere along the line, somebody asked themselves the question, "What would happen if I took this sexually explicit material and intertwined it into a romance novel?" What would I call it? Erotica, maybe?<br /> Wait,before you start crucifying me,hear me out. You have to admit, some of it is pretty damn steamy.<br /> Now, I never begrudge an author writing something that works for them, because we all have different tastes. I write traditional western fiction and, trust me, I've heard more than my share of beat downs on how boring and unimaginative the western genre is.<br /> But, why does everyone get so up in arms to the point of doing bodily harm if they could get their hands on you? You know it's true!<br /> I leave you with this. In the movie Pretty Woman, a corporate business man took a prostitute,dressed her up in all the finery and made her his girlfriend for a week. But did it make her any less a prostitute? Did she not, after the week go back to doing what she was doing before they slapped the fairy tale ending on the movie?<br /> That said,there's an old saying, "You can't please all the people all the time." But you can please your loyal fans most of the time.<br /> So, ladies, and sometimes gents, keep writing what you're writing if it makes the world go around even a little bit because that what makes the writing world so great!<br /> You can crucify me now if you wish!!!<br />Larry Paynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14480246478595019333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-74049225369561265642012-10-03T12:59:44.246-07:002012-10-03T12:59:44.246-07:00I think a big part of the problem is that writers ...I think a big part of the problem is that writers are posting porn and calling it erotica, so the whole genre is being tarred with that brush. Bad writing is bad writing no matter what you call it, and there is a lot of shit out there under the title of erotica that is just porn - body parts being put with other body parts for titillation purposes, and that's just porn. As for Anne Rice - I couldn't even finish the first Sleeping Beauty book, it bored me so much.<br /><br />There are things I look for in good erotica, and things that will send me screaming to the hills. Erotica does not mean let's see how many naughty words you can cram in there for body parts. Well done erotica doesn't need it, doesn't require such "shock value". It should stand on its own merit. So let's get rid of the"p" word and the "c" word right off the bat as being crude. In porn, it's fine, but not in any piece of fiction with a pretense at possessing literary value.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong. I do like erotica, if it's done well. But so much of it isn't, and it's really just porn, with pretensions. The trouble is, it's giving the rest a bad name. If you want to write smut, write smut, but don't delude yourself into thinking it's something else.<br /><br />Just my opinion.Julie Lynn Hayeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03574029767523627749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-79869818535823368552012-10-03T12:29:31.404-07:002012-10-03T12:29:31.404-07:00Erotica has the same definition as erotic in that ...Erotica has the same definition as erotic in that the sex scenes are an integral part of the story and have explicit language. Nothing is left to the imagination and can have a happy ever after or not. Erotic romance has all of that with the requirement of a HEA. Sensual romances are a step down from these. Even though they contain detailed sex scenes they don't use the explicit language. Tammy Dennings Maggyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17551291117492287824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-67729503736636491802012-10-03T11:49:15.542-07:002012-10-03T11:49:15.542-07:00I like this article. My day job which pays the bil...I like this article. My day job which pays the bills is in a porn store. I end up seeing porn all day long. There is a big difference between the erotica I've written and the things we sell here. For one you are correct on the lack of a story line in porn and there's one exception I know of which was a movie called "Throat". <br /><br />The one that sent you the email should read a Catherine Coulter sometime. They might get a monstrously huge surprise which might do them some good.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723572411694616823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-61328757510581536072012-10-03T11:44:11.297-07:002012-10-03T11:44:11.297-07:00I once told a group of woman I work with that the ...I once told a group of woman I work with that the way to know Erotic from Erotica was to remove all the sex. If what remains is a story (though now short and missing all the umph) you have erotic, if all you got is a cover it was erotica. LOL <br />It amazes me how someone could down load an obvious title and not know what they were getting. Bravo to you for setting the record straight!GlimpsesofMidnighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11020783950672506591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-80256483345772325282012-10-03T10:20:42.082-07:002012-10-03T10:20:42.082-07:00I think it's those who don't read much who...I think it's those who don't read much who don't understand the difference between porn, erotica and erotic romance and straight romance come to that. As authors, we know the differences but too many people just lump us together as writers of porn. Unfair.Barbara Elsborghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15825994197656747262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-18330915572087202682012-10-03T00:04:01.197-07:002012-10-03T00:04:01.197-07:00I have this book. I just downloaded it yesterday. ...I have this book. I just downloaded it yesterday. Now I'm wondering what I'm missing by not reading it yet. :)<br /><br />Don't worry about one nay sayer's words. Just keep writing the stories that you love to write.<br /><br />Janice~Janice Seagraveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02576031935823587485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-37935158308265534942012-10-02T09:52:59.730-07:002012-10-02T09:52:59.730-07:00If the reader has that little respect for erotica,...If the reader has that little respect for erotica, then why did she bother to download the freebie? I mean, the title surely wasn't a dead give away about the content, right? That genre obviously not her cup of tea in the first place, so the fact that she went ahead and gave a negative report on the book is ridiculous. She has an agenda and your book was a convenient target. Sigh. Just put the book down and walk away.Valerie Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761558020418265338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-82256124216195972102012-10-02T09:23:46.779-07:002012-10-02T09:23:46.779-07:00Btw, I was referring to that one quote. Forgot to ...Btw, I was referring to that one quote. Forgot to mention that.Faith Bicknellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08978240749619858463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-41718629903925475992012-10-02T09:21:41.729-07:002012-10-02T09:21:41.729-07:00I have to be the rare animal here, lol. I skip ove...I have to be the rare animal here, lol. I skip over erotic scenes in books quite often. However, I believe the reason I do that is because I wrote for national men's magazines for years as well as some big e-zines in the same market. I think writing scene after scene of intense, graphic sex took all the eroticism out of it for me. It's like eating so much ice cream you make yourself sick on it and can never touch the stuff again. Writing sex scenes now sorta does the same thing to me.Faith Bicknellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08978240749619858463noreply@blogger.com