tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post4734156178818524811..comments2023-10-21T08:22:23.232-07:00Comments on Four Strong Women: If Ms. Jones is fat, well then...Emmy Ellishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06348320835897735088noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-74101877572757841542012-10-12T10:46:34.070-07:002012-10-12T10:46:34.070-07:00Hello Fiona...meant to comment earlier! But if tha...Hello Fiona...meant to comment earlier! But if that really is the reason for why they chose the models they did...ones that would show the cloths rather than the person...it seems as though they lost their focus...or why they were designing cloths. If people were talking about the models and how good they looked in their designs...wouldn't that be a good thing? I'm not sure I'm being clear with my point...anyway, it doesn't make sense to me really.<br /><br />And yes, we should all embrace who we are. Beauty is every where and in everyone. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-23637875165582875502012-10-09T15:28:05.001-07:002012-10-09T15:28:05.001-07:00That's YOUNG adults! Sheesh! I work too much...That's YOUNG adults! Sheesh! I work too much! Getting slap-happy and it's not even 6 yet! Fiona McGierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13495707848048468428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-68401167584860889072012-10-09T15:26:36.795-07:002012-10-09T15:26:36.795-07:00I've heard that the reason models are so thin ...I've heard that the reason models are so thin is that the designers used to be upset that people were admiring the women INSIDE the clothing, instead of the clothes. So they pitched their heads together and decided that they would use the most unattractive, least feminine-looking females they could find, and that way people would focus on the clothes. <br /><br />Fly forward a few decades and here we are, stuck with the media-influenced idea that you can't ever be too rich or too thin. News flash: women have died from being too thin! And others suffer health issues from being too thin! Being overweight may damage your body in the long run, but hey, none of us live forever anyway! But the problems stemming from being chubby pale in comparison to heart issues, losing teeth, and no periods, like some anorexic woman deal with. <br /><br />I'll take my ultra-curvy body that produced 4 your adults anyday. I may not be able to wear a size 6 ever again, but that's okay. I wore a size 6 when I met my husband, but back then he swam in a Speedo! As long as we don't mind each other's extra weight, we're alright.<br /><br />Love yourself, ladies! You look fine the way you are!Fiona McGierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13495707848048468428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-84840681058983076232012-10-08T16:46:23.004-07:002012-10-08T16:46:23.004-07:00It's true, Anthology Authors, that sizes certa...It's true, Anthology Authors, that sizes certainly have changed over time...I didn't ever know the exact stats of MM or MW, I just knew that by today's standards, the fact that they were curvy is considered wrong by Hollywood standards. The last time I weighed 118, I was unattractively thin family members accused me of having an eating disorder...sigh... (but that's a topic for another day!). <br /><br />Valerie, it is very sad that most women do have body issues. One of things I find interesting is that most guys I know don't care about the size of girl...or their girlfriends...or wives...to quote Brad Bird from "The Incredibles" commentary "They're just happy we're around."<br /><br /><br />Thanks for all the comments. I think I've very far to right, time zone wise, from many readers so if I miss you tonight, I'll catch you tomorrow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-74024508843462803032012-10-08T15:37:05.964-07:002012-10-08T15:37:05.964-07:00Great post! Most women have body image issues - I ...Great post! Most women have body image issues - I sure do. And I felt every bit of your turmoil. But you sound like you're dealing with it as healthy as possible given our society's penchant for finding anyone above a size zero FAT!Valerie Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11761558020418265338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-84281343904195520162012-10-08T15:00:44.114-07:002012-10-08T15:00:44.114-07:00ARGH! Must we go over this again about Marilyn Mon...ARGH! Must we go over this again about Marilyn Monroe? First, a size 12 in 1960s is not the same size 12 in 2012. It's not even the same size 12 in 1980. A size 12 in 1960s was someone with a 27" waist. Size 8 was a woman with a 25" waist. I know this because my mother used to sew and has patterns from that time period. A size 8 in the 80s was about a 28" waist. That's what my waist was in high school. Here's a link about Marilyn Monroe's measurements (from her dressmaker):<br /><br /><a href="http://jezebel.com/5299793/for-the-last-time-what-size-was-marilyn-monroe" rel="nofollow">http://jezebel.com/5299793/for-the-last-time-what-size-was-marilyn-monroe</a><br /><br />or you can just read this:<br /><br />Height: 5 feet, 5½ inches<br />Weight: 118-140 pounds<br />Bust: 35-37 inches<br />Waist: 22-23 inches<br />Hips: 35-36 inches<br />Bra size: 36D<br /><br />This is a myth. Another link about the auction of her estate: <a href="http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2012/01/10/marilyn_monroe.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2012/01/10/marilyn_monroe.html</a><br /><br />That being said, Bridget Jones is not fat, and it's horrible that this crap is perpetuated. It drives me nuts that the women are always pencil-thin (and in real life often unhealthy) and the men can have flesh on their bones. In Hollywood, I am considered fat, and even when I was skinny (weighing in at 118 lbs and being 5'6"-5'7" that is too thin), I occasionally saw myself as fat. And, no, it wasn't an eating disorder. It was stress. I was gaunt and, looking at photos now, unattractively so. And that is sad. <b>No matter a woman's size, it is never good enough. We are not allowed to love the size we are.</b><br /><br />BTW, Mae West's measurements were, according to designer Edith Head:<br /><br />height: 5'2"<br />bust: 38"<br />waist: 24"<br />hips: 38"<br /><br />How much of that 24" was corset? Hard to tell, but she was a beautiful woman regardless.<br /><br />And some other measurements of stars:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.deepglamour.net/deep_glamour/2011/06/the-full-skinny-marilyn-monroe-was-tinyand-so-were-rita-hayworth-judy-garland-grace-kelly-barbra-str.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.deepglamour.net/deep_glamour/2011/06/the-full-skinny-marilyn-monroe-was-tinyand-so-were-rita-hayworth-judy-garland-grace-kelly-barbra-str.html</a><br /><br />MarciMarci Baunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01850775917897362922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-82164551279261035972012-10-08T08:31:20.141-07:002012-10-08T08:31:20.141-07:00Hey Faith...I completely agree with you...I'm ...Hey Faith...I completely agree with you...I'm fine with movies straying from the book as long as it's still in keeping with the spirit of the book...but the second one went crazy away from the book and not in a way that I liked.<br /><br />Linda. :)It is so true...you really are only as big as you feel. It bothers me that some days I can be so influenced by what I see...however, I'm getting better and being more positive. You know what I mean when I say how important having your health is. Tight jeans...in the long or short run...don't matter...<br /><br />Pat...yes, it is really quite tragic how the media plays on the insecurities of woman. Fat jokes drive me crazy! I also get so so weary of the fact that it's ok for the guy in a lead role be "normal" but the girl he gets has to be un realistically perfect looking. And if she's not, if she's normal...it's pointed out and how lovely that he likes her in spite of her being a size 9 instead of 0.<br />And I never heard that quote of Mariah Carey's...that's really, really unbelievable.<br /><br />And by the way, I mean no offense to anyone out there who is thin. This is just rant about how I feel about me...not others. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-56668525630985788522012-10-08T08:29:22.660-07:002012-10-08T08:29:22.660-07:00Hi Pat! You are so right re Marilyn. Mae West was ...Hi Pat! You are so right re Marilyn. Mae West was another one today's fashion industry would dub plus size or more. I did some research on them a few years ago for a blog post. If memory serves, Marilyn was a size 14 dress and Mae a size 16, and both were short gals. I think Mae was only like 5'1". Both were two of the most beautiful women ever to live, imho.Faith Bicknellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08978240749619858463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-90531630135824904462012-10-08T08:15:22.495-07:002012-10-08T08:15:22.495-07:00Movies and TV disgust me when they do that. Bring ...Movies and TV disgust me when they do that. Bring on a normal size woman and call her fat and then make her the brunt of jokes.<br /><br />But consider this. Marilyn Monroe would be fat by today's standards. What women in film today (and modeling) film today (and modeling) film today (and modeling) are expected to be are emaciated. Anyone remember the Mariah Carey comment that she wanted to look like those African kids who were all skin and bone because their starving "except for the flies."Pat Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08824114343214016153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-21411533901520406732012-10-08T08:05:21.981-07:002012-10-08T08:05:21.981-07:00I nver thought Bridget Jones was fat. And I bet y...I nver thought Bridget Jones was fat. And I bet you look lovely in your little black dress! <br /><br />I think fat is all mental. You're only as big as you feel. Now, how does a person make themselves feel perfect is the question. <br /><br />Boy, I feel philosophical this morning. Congrats on your new release and hugs to Ivy Bateman, the perfectly-shaped author!!!Linda Kagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00259042112816376940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8144727781552044864.post-46140626175474414332012-10-08T08:04:31.385-07:002012-10-08T08:04:31.385-07:00Great post, Ivy! I liked the first Bridget Jones m...Great post, Ivy! I liked the first Bridget Jones movie, but didn't care for the second one.Faith Bicknellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08978240749619858463noreply@blogger.com